Only in watchtowerland could they think there is a logical connection between David stopping Abishai from killing Saul and cutting off family ties because someone disagrees with your religion.
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Today's Study - Shun Disfellowshipped Family, Don't Marry Outsiders, Tell On Others!
by Divergent inurghhh... what a disgusting study!7 a conflict of loyalties may arise when a close relative is disfellowshipped.
for example, a sister named anne received a telephone call from her disfellowshipped mother.
the mother wanted to visit anne because she felt pained by her isolation from the family.
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Programme for UK branch visit
by Saltheart Foamfollower ini've seen this weekend's uk branch visit mentioned a few times.
for those who are interested, here is the programme:-.
1:00 pm song 63 & prayer - p. gillies.
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Here is my brief review of the meeting:
Watchtower - as objectionable as expected
Branch report - like a local needs item - Philip Longstaff's photos from his visit to Falklands and pictures from Pakistan of people holding Urdu bibles. Oh and Chelmsford has been very busy and will get busier (maybe even enough so that someone will notice)
Prove yourselves ready - seriously, was this just given to Kikot so that he would have to keep saying riddy - I almost fell asleep 4 times during this.
Make over your mind - OK, now for the surprise. I liked this talk - it seemed to focus almost entirely on improving personal qualities and getting on with other people rather than what is done in the ministry. It reminded me of that brief time in the late 70s when kingdom service was said to include helping others etc. I probably missed some parts that were less good, but the general tone was so much better than the GB have been using.
Of course, it is also significant what wasn't mentioned - child abuse, financial problems etc. Any thoughts from others who stayed awake to the end?
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Programme for UK branch visit
by Saltheart Foamfollower ini've seen this weekend's uk branch visit mentioned a few times.
for those who are interested, here is the programme:-.
1:00 pm song 63 & prayer - p. gillies.
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I've seen this weekend's UK branch visit mentioned a few times. For those who are interested, here is the programme:-
1:00 pm Song 63 & prayer - P. Gillies
1:05 pm Watchtower summary - R. Li
1:35 pm Branch report & experiences - P. Longstaff
1:55 pm Song 54 & announcements
2:05 pm Prove yourselves ready for Jehovah's day - J. Kikot
3:00 pm Make over your mind - K. Flodin
3:55 pm Song 75 & prayer - K. Flodin
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2016-03-12-E US BOE Re: Literature Offer for July through December 2016
by wifibandit into all congregations in the united states branch territory re: literature offer for july through december 2016.
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Phizzy - you may find this hard to believe, but the "Teach Us" book is a simplified version of the "Bible Teach" book (as if it wasn't simple enough). Its release was "hidden" at the beginning of the letter read out last year about the change in midweek meetings.
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Circuit visit elders meeting
by Saltheart Foamfollower infirst some context to this post.
historically the elders meeting with the circuit overseer has had the following format : outline for meeting including ministerial servants then, after they have been dismissed, discussion of local issues.
the last visit there was an additional outline for the elders only, the notorious "gender blurring" discussion.. you might wonder what is being discussed this time round, so here you are:.
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Like many of you I have been to lots of these meetings in the past and yes they were pretty boring mostly. Now, the co is the one with all of the power and he likes to use it. He will make a "suggestion" one visit then if it hasn't been followed up next time all hell breaks loose. He can remove elders, change their assignments, bring others in - more or less anything he wants these days. This means elders are extremely tense during the visit and particularly during the meeting with him. The extra outline part from the GB just increases the level of stress.
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Circuit visit elders meeting
by Saltheart Foamfollower infirst some context to this post.
historically the elders meeting with the circuit overseer has had the following format : outline for meeting including ministerial servants then, after they have been dismissed, discussion of local issues.
the last visit there was an additional outline for the elders only, the notorious "gender blurring" discussion.. you might wonder what is being discussed this time round, so here you are:.
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First some context to this post. Historically the elders meeting with the circuit overseer has had the following format : outline for meeting including ministerial servants then, after they have been dismissed, discussion of local issues. The last visit there was an additional outline for the elders only, the notorious "gender blurring" discussion.
You might wonder what is being discussed this time round, so here you are:
Disaster preparedness - each elder should have an up to date list of all publishers and contact details. A local needs item should take place annually to remind all to have emergency supplies etc ready. This is all from BOE Jan 6 2012 which I thought they had just quietly forgotten about.
Next was a discussion about cart witnessing - nothing new but it obviously isn't being shelved anytime soon.
Keeping up to date with theocratic direction was mentioned and how the midweek meeting was going was also reviewed as well as a check on shepherding being done properly.
So, nothing dramatic this time, until you realise that that there is absolutely nothing about handling cases of child abuse, which many of us recognise as the biggest issue currently facing the society.
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Happy Birthday...
by Saltheart Foamfollower in... to all who share this day as their birthday with me, particularly if you you still have to pretend to be a jw.. sf.
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Thanks Mad Puppy - I didn't sound too needy did I :-) -
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Happy Birthday...
by Saltheart Foamfollower in... to all who share this day as their birthday with me, particularly if you you still have to pretend to be a jw.. sf.
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... to all who share this day as their birthday with me, particularly if you you still have to pretend to be a jw.
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2016-2-17-Destroy Previous S-77 Forms!
by Atlantis inthese numbers and letters:--gbr659967--are the only identifying markson this boe..the "informant" who sent it said:.
"this letter came through the congregation inbox and so hasn't got theusual identifying information.
the name of the file is probably thebest way to identify it.
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Socrateswannabe & Sir82 - just to clarify - the forms to be destroyed are completed forms which could be decades old with information about past disfellowshippings. Filled in electronic versions have been sent to replace these, but nobody can do anything now or in the future to make sure they say the same thing. They are destroying information in direct opposition to what the Goddard Inquiry has instructed them to do.
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2016-2-17-Destroy Previous S-77 Forms!
by Atlantis inthese numbers and letters:--gbr659967--are the only identifying markson this boe..the "informant" who sent it said:.
"this letter came through the congregation inbox and so hasn't got theusual identifying information.
the name of the file is probably thebest way to identify it.
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Unfortunately the only one who could check if there have been any alterations is the secretary - nobody else has access to the completed forms. Technically, he doesn't either as they are in sealed envelopes but they could be checked before being destroyed. I am not a secretary so I have no chance to check.
I absolutely agree that this needs to get to the Goddard Inquiry.